Tuesday, 10 March 2009

National staff salaries leaked on internet

From Maktoob.com:

National staff salaries leaked on internet
Tue, 10 Mar 2009 03:46 PM

The salaries of the National’s entire editorial staff have been leaked on the internet in what is being described as a serious data security breach at the Abu Dhabi-based newspaper, Maktoob Business can reveal.

The monthly salaries of over 250 employees, including editor-in-chief Martin Newland, have been posted on Wikileaks, an internet site dedicated to the publication of confidential information.

...

Sources at the newspaper confirmed some of the salaries in the document were accurate said the leak might have been in retaliation for the freezing of bonuses this year or the u-turn on free housing.

Newland declined to comment when contacted by Maktoob Business. Abu Dhabi Media Co (ADMC), which owns the National, was not immediately available for comment.

148 comments:

Anonymous said...

They're worth every dirham all of them. That's why the National sells less than 2,000 copies a day the rest is bulk drop off's. Fact.

Anonymous said...

how much do you reckon housing allowance is on top of that?

Anonymous said...

Wouldn't like to be the head of section on 5,000 less than the deputy!

Anonymous said...

Housing allowance is included in those figures.

Anonymous said...

I've not worked in the Emirates for a while, so excuse the question: does The National audit? Or do they just lie, like the Toady and 24/7 did/do?
Consider: on top of a staff of 270 from what I can see, they'll have wires like AFP, AP, Reuters, etc (in other words, add another million dollars a year in cost), freelances, and they're light years away from breaking even.
As well as housing allowance, what's the betting Newland gets schooling for his kids (he has four, although not sure if they're all school age), car allowance, etc etc.
When you're editing a paper like the Daily Telegraph, selling more than a million a day, then fair enough. But on a paid-for circulation of 2,000?
Oof. Good job, Newland.

Anonymous said...

housing allowance for us is between 6000-8000

Anonymous said...

anon @ 00.13 - is that flat rate, or dependent on whether you have a family?

Anonymous said...

@0014

I don't really know about others. Just mine and some friends.

Anonymous said...

Do they audit - do they fuck. Someone, somewhere is losing a great deal of money - not really the economic climate for that now is it?

Anonymous said...

It's not as if the National does anything different for them to deserve these salaries.
It's just a better edited version of the other papers here (and it should be with 25 rewriters!) It has no human interest stories, regurgitates the same tired UAE is a world power and the centre of culture and finance and is dry, over-written and very dull.
An Arab has written a poem on smoking shisha - 1,800 words page 3 investigation plus three pictures...sheer brilliance.
Could do with the salary though. Who do I contact for a job? HR - or have they all been sacked??

Anonymous said...

here is where you can download it:

http://88.80.13.160/wiki/UAE:_The_National_newspaper%2C_confidential_staff_salaries%2C_2009

Anonymous said...

I bet all you sad fuckers at ITP must be feeling pretty shitty right about now. Hahahahahaaaa. Wankers. Love it.

Anonymous said...

http://88.80.13.160.nyud.net/leak/national-salaries-2009.pdf

best if you use this link. The other link doesn't work.

Now I'm tempted to leak ITP's salary list.

Should I? ITP pay less. That's for sure.

Anonymous said...

If someone could give reliable salary figures for ITP and Motivate, that'd be great.

Anonymous said...

http://mumbrella.com.au/2009/03/11/hoe-much-does-an-editor-earn-56000-a-month/

Anonymous said...

It's not the salaries that get me, well, it's AD after all, it's the sheer bloody number of the buggers.

For a provincial newspaper with groundbreaking local reports on er, sheesha cafes and a DPS in the Arts section filled with Barbie dolls, it's incredible.

And a "Letters Editor" who pulls a salary equivalent to the Congo's national debt for subbing, on average, five letters a day!

I've worked on locals in the provinces and nationals in the Smoke and we operated on half those numbers.

This is vanity publishing at its most obscene, but kudos to Newland et al for pulling it off.

In theses grim global economic times it's heartwarming to see a 72pt, triple decker headline: Laughing All The Way To The Bank (screamer!)

Anonymous said...

Go ahead mate...tell us what ITP-ers are really on! We could have a new trend of openess and disclosure sweeping the Gulf starting with the media!

Anonymous said...

I am outside UAE and can still view the file on http://88.80.13.160/leak/national-salaries-2009.pdf

not sure if it's been blocked there?

indiancurry said...

He he, the National is going international as the leaked salary list has been commented on the Australian blog mumbrella at the link given above by anonymous.

Anonymous said...

What's the atmosphere been like in the office, anyone? Give us the inside dirt, go on, you know you wana...

Anonymous said...

The salary list is also doing the rounds in the newsrooms of Jordan. Jaws are dropping left, right and centre. Hats off to them all for managing to blag such sweet deals. But come on, objectively speaking, are they worth the money?

Anonymous said...

stupid question but what currency are these salaries in? its a uae paper but no way this is dirhams...

Anonymous said...

Thought I might compare the annual salary of Martin Newland to the Prime Minister of England.

According to recent info, the Prime Minister receives £127,334 in addition to a salary of £60,277 as a Member of Parliament. This makes a total annual salary of £187,611.

According to the website, http://listentotaxman.com, which calculates income tax, the Prime Minister is subject to £67,829.40 in deductions. This brings his total salary to £112,170.60

Newland's monthly salary is Dh132,834. Multiplied by 12 and converted into sterling, this translates as £314,080 - a salary which is exempt from tax.

Just to compare then,

£314,080 for the editor of a UAE newspaper
£112,170 for the Prime Minister of England

- Making a percentage difference of 180 per cent.

indiancurry said...

Salaries are in Dirhams man, you don't expect anyone in AD to pay in US Dollars. Noen of the links work in the whole Middle East. Looks like the blocking people are at it again, block, block, block, until you drop. What a shame!

Anonymous said...

the links still work in Tecom.

Anonymous said...

golden krugerrands. We have them polished every day by a team of unemployed real estate brokers.

Anonymous said...

http://tinyurl.com/dht8fw

Anonymous said...

http://88.80.13.160.nyud.net/leak/national-salaries-2009.pdf

Anonymous said...

And here:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/mediamonkeyblog/2009/mar/11/martin-newland-salary-leaked

Anonymous said...

with memos posted on here, and full staff salaries, the national has more leaks than the titanic

Anonymous said...

I'm having some T-shirts printed with the salary details printed on them.

Does anybody want one?

The N$tional

Anonymous said...

Some numbers to ponder about. Considering their staff to be around 250, let's take an average salary of Dh25,000 for around 175 employees. The rest 75 may fall in the above Dh25,000 category.
Do the maths, this adds upto almost Dh4.35m every month. Add the Dh2m for the higher income bracket like Newland... and that takes it to almost Dh6.5m a month just for editorial salaries..

Anonymous said...

then add in the cost of housing everyone for a year in hotels ....

Anonymous said...

Have I got this right?

The market leader Gulf News sell's about 13 000 copies a day at the news stand looking at their audit. The National 2 000 if you belive this blog. GN is 30 yrs old this yr & TN is 11 Months old. Looks to me like The National is doing just fine for the new kid on the block. If they are sampling papers right now, good on them, what else can they do, they are not even a year old...or are they?

Staff seem to be doing just as well.

National get's a gold medal for best printed paper in the region & 3 silver medals + 22 other awards for design excellence in it's short life as well.

Looks like it is on track & now everybody knows they pay for talent as well. About time somebody did in the region, so well done Martin & well done Abu Dhabi.

Anonymous said...

Thats 8 full page ads running a day in the paper at a rate of 30,000 dirhams an ad, 360 days of the year to cover the salaries of the editorial team..

I guess it just depends upon how successful they are as a paper..

As long as they carry more than 8 full pages a day, they're covering their costs..

Anonymous said...

And then add to that an estimated 50% drop in ad revenue across the board (dailies, mags, b2b and b2c)... erm... I think it may be time to cash in ADIA's fund! Hahahahaaa, oh gawd, my jaws hurt with laughter.

Anonymous said...

Imagine that!

Finding talented senior people with experience at major national newspapers in the US and UK and then paying them decent salaries!

I don't think it will catch on.

For comparison's sake, some actual salaries in the US and UK -- it would seem Newland may have taken a pay cut to go to Abu Dhabi.


http://nymag.com/guides/salary/14497/index3.html

Bill Keller
$650,000
Executive editor, the New York Times

Col Allan
$600,000
Editor, New York Post

Richard Johnson
$300,000
“Page Six” gossip columnist

Anna Wintour
$2 million
Editor, Vogue

Janice Min
$1.2 million
Editor, Us Weekly

James Kelly
$1.1 million
Managing editor, Time

Tom Wallace
$1 million
Editorial director, Condé Nast

David Remnick
$1 million
Editor, The New Yorker




From the Guardian, 2008:

http://tinyurl.com/bcppav



The Guardian editor-in-chief, Alan Rusbridger, received salary and benefits of £401,000 in the past financial year.

Anonymous said...

I really do not get the few people on here who find some sort of sick delight in anyone else's misfortune, and get really bitter at their success. Did your mother not love you?

I have no idea of the financial position of the National. However I am positive ADIA did not expect to turn a profit in the first year.

I also think it's great the much investment is going into the media in this region.

I do however believe whoever leaked this because they felt entitled to a bonus or free accommodation is an absolute moron.

This will benefit no one. It's now transparrent to staff at the National are paid significantly above industry norms. It is clear that they are have nowhere to go... It was a zero sum game - owners, managers, employees - everyone has lost.

Anonymous said...

to anon 22.15 firstly, the National is no Time. Secondly, Newland is likely to have had housing, insurance, travel, possibly a car on top of that, making a very generous package.

Anonymous said...

Interpol investigation? oh sure, he's really worth that much time and attention.

Anonymous said...

What newspaper in the region is regularly quoted in the NY Times, by Reuters, and others? Not the Gulf News, wanker; The National.
What paper has been accurate and aggressive in reporting all the financial bollocks of the past year? 24/7? You loser. The National.
What newspaper is quickly becoming the paper of record in the region? Arabian Business? HAHAHAHAH. The National.
For the losers wingeing here because they can't get a job there, it's time to get a life or get back to your menial jobs. The paper's owners are getting their money's worth. Good for Newland and good for the staff for producing top notch work amidst all this crap.

Anonymous said...

"Interpol investigation? oh sure, he's really worth that much time and attention."

I don't think you realise who this guy's pissed off. He's upset people that matter - not just at the paper, we're talking MUCH higher.

All we can do is wait and see...

Anonymous said...

@11 March, 2009 22:14

You have quoted the salaries of editors in the US and the UK, but you forgot to compare the circulation figure, the subscription numbers and the adverts. btw, please dont insult those publications by putting them against National.

@12 March, 2009 00:09

Whenever something happens in Saudi Arabia, the Arab News is quoted by the international media, when something newsworthy happens in Jordan, the Jordan Times is quotes, so by your reasoning they are great papers too!!!
P.S. You can justify anything and everything in this world but that does not make it right or fruitful in the long term.

Anonymous said...

"International espionage!"
Haaaahaha, this gets funnier by the fucking hour!

00:36 - Er, higher? You mean Sheikh Khalifa? Or higher perhaps, well, that'd be his true masters, the White House or the CIA. Sure, the President is pissed off. Pissed off that Newland's getting paid more than him! hahahahhaahaa. I know I shouldn't laugh, but really, like watch Ricky Gervais, I just have to! LMAO

indiancurry said...

If it weren't for the fact that someone has committed a corporate espionage act by leaking the salary sheet (God save the poor soul if he's still in AD), this is getting more publicity on all the blogs than Obama himself.

I can see the last 2 days Gulf News editions look green & I don't mean they have gotten environmentally conscious!

For once GN is taking a back seat & I bet that hurts the high & mighty wankers at GN. Anyone got any figures on what the losers at GN are paid?

Anonymous said...

the thing is, most of the salary structure is pretty fair. But there are some shocking exceptions, and an obvious bias against women and for Arabs.

would love to see ITP and Motivate pay structures in comparison.

Anonymous said...

We all agree that Journalists in the UAE have been paid crap wages, been treated like slaves and have produced shite
Hats off to The National for challenging the Status Quo
It has now been confirmed that this vanity project is funded by seemingly bottomless pockets, producing a rag that puts the local competition in the shade.
For as long as Abu Dhabi can subsidise this gravy train - everyone's a winner
1) The capital gets the qudos of producing the only rag worth reading
2) 200+ Journalists get great salary packages
3) The management of ITP, Motivate, CPI, TMF et al get shown up as the C*&ts they really are
4) You get something 1/2 decent to read at Lime Tree on Friday morning

Anonymous said...

Not that it matters, but actually there are a number of Arabs getting paid less than Westerners doing the same job.

Anonymous said...

What most UAE based commentators forget is that for successful mature market based staff there is little need to come to the UAE to work. We will get paid just as much back home with all the attendant securities that you find in a democracy.

The fact is that UAE employers are notorious for offering deals to more-established journos then welching when the ex-pat arrives.

For people at the National it then becomes a no-brainer but to return home and fuck their employers as much as possible.

Now those of you (that's the majority) who have had little experience of successfully working in a more developed market and are used to be treated like scum and act like frightened rabbits or think that what goes on in UAE is somehow normal you can't get your head around this at all.

The usual cries of "jealous", "didn't make it in UAE" etc will ring out while the better people just go home get good jobs while you're all stuck on 10,000 to 15,000 dirhams a month in one of the biggest shitholes on the planet, living hand to mouth the same as you would do back home.

As for interpol - some of you should get out a bit more.

Anonymous said...

10-15,000 dirhams? that's probably what the receptionist gets paid at The National. The journalists are on way more than experienced journos in Western markets.

Not sure whether to applaud or bang my head against the desk.

Anonymous said...

"Content will be designed to reflect our readers' concerns in relation to the national character of the UAE."

Great words last year Marty.

Hmm, the national character? Sitting on your fat, rich, lazy arse whilst a bunch of expats do the work for you... in English.

You've more than exceeded your remit. Keep up the good work.

Anonymous said...

As for salaries in Gulf News, one is paid as per his/her race, region, ethnicity and religion. It is inversely proportional to the colour of the skin and directly proportional if one is a c...t. It is pussy power there. The pussies have the cream and the poor Indian stray dogs lap the butter milk and clean up the mess. Canines, pls don't be offended.

Anonymous said...

A friend in Gulf News tells me that the average salary for most of the pussies there is around Dh20000 plus. For the Indian dogs the average is around Dh12000.

Anonymous said...

lol!
ooh yummy i love laban up!

Whats with the racial comments? Even in recession... :) it takes all kinds as the saying goes...

Anonymous said...

What will be the repercussions now that the salaries are public knowledge? Anyway, I've sent my CV in to their HR dept. I'm a painter and decorator from Reading, but still, you never know.

Anonymous said...

I used to herd sheep in New Zealand then I got a job here as the CEO of a 'reputed', world-class', 'international' company but now I want to lick some real arse, so can I apply to National, too?

Please advice me how to go about it, because I want to be a good arse licker, just like the rest of them.

Anonymous said...

Looks like the Indians in Gulf News are happy because they are getting "laban up". Before I left dat shite house, most of them survived on left over curries. I mean reporters and sub-editors from "British India" were paid less than the minimum wage of a labourer in the UK, and dat too for putting in more than 10 hours and editing incomprehensible copies written by the shite-headed editors with all sorts of fancy titles. Believe me, the Indians there are not bad, in fact they are the best there. I am not racist, but it is a fact. The rest are just scum, with the exception of a few.
Back to the point, the "poor" Indians should thank the National for their current salaries of Dh12000. Gulf News increased the salaries of their Indian staff when the National was hiring and most of the Brits were leaving for Abu Dhabi.

Anonymous said...

Salaries at The National makes everyone else look like mugs for working for so much less. However, the business section of the National reads more like news that the PR shite in the rest of the broadsheets and that government mouthpiece Business 24/7
The lesson learnt is, if you're gonna regurgiate PR spin, then you can only be expected to pay peanuts

Anonymous said...

Openness about wages could be a really good tactic in a place where unions are banned.

I was a senior editor headhunted by ITP - they originally offered me 15,000. I said I wanted 30,000 but we settled on 25,000. I wasn't in a rush and went from a successful career in the UK.

I was shocked to see how low the wages were for subs and writers etc at ITP - less that 10,000. In fact, I couldn't work out why most people were there as a competent sub or writer in the UK can easily earn that and more. And sure, plenty about UK sucks but wait til you get seriously sick in Dubai or expect some form of justice in an Arab runs you over etc etc.

What is amusing on here is the bitterness shown to national staff who are on decent wages. If you are paid well then that's excellent - it should hopefully drive up wages across the board for genuine talent. If you've chosen to accept appalling wages and shite conditions that's really your problem. But maybe you weren't that good in the first place?

I was aware some people felt the same bitterness towards me at ITP - I think I was one of the highest earners there in editorial. I believe I was worth more - arrogant, maybe, but it's about knowing your value.

Anonymous said...

15:44
The National does not seem to beat 24-7 on breaking stories. It is not the fault of the reporters or editors if everything they unearth needs to be made prettier. If you do read the stories, you'd realise that once you get past the rosy headlines and prettified language there is more fact there than in any other paper. And, often, exclusives.
What you are talking about is the publisher's domain rather than the editor's.
Having worked with some of the staff currently at The National, I wouldn't say quality is a factor in all their high salaries. Race, yes. And, of course, funds.
Lastly, I am happy that they get these salaries and one hopes that this sets the bar for every other publishing house but until Newland keeps his hiring policy 'gora-friendly' it is never going to be a level playing field.

Anonymous said...

On the matter of race: I must say that having studied the salaries, I find it impossible to see any serious imbalance on the basis of race, if we can guess such things on the basis of names alone.

Among the subs I see a lot of people with Arab or Indian names making more than presumably white co-workers. Same goes for the reporters -- some of the lowest paid people seem to be white, and plenty of non-white names are in the upper half of the pay scale.

Whoever said there is an obvious bias would seem to be full of shit, unless they want to offer some more detailed analysis to prove it.

Anonymous said...

@20:58

Do you have trouble reading?

Start by looking at what the sports reporters are paid.

On the business desk a girl from one of ITP's trade mags is paid 20% more than a Pakistani man from one of the international newswires.

Jennifer Marto said...

Well, at least this should put people like the bosses at ITP in shame, the fucking pricks work you like a dog but pay peanuts and are entirely racist in this respect, with the shittiest pay going to Indians and South Africans. I hope they go to hell.

Anonymous said...

She's on 25% more than the Pakistani, if you're talking about the girl who messed up a major story because she didn't know the difference between falling growth and falling prices.

Anonymous said...

I dont know why some of you sound surprised by National's salaries when wasting millions and millions of dirhams is the pride of this part of the world.

Anonymous said...

It is a good thing that this has been leaked.

Just look at this blog. Instead of petty insults and moaning, we are all talking about something that actually matters to the journalists working in this region.

I used to be the editor of a monthly consumer publication at ITP and was on Dhs15,000 per month. Not much really.
Although there is a pay-freeze and recruitment freeze at ITP now, I know a lot of people who are still there and, although we all know that The National has deep pockets, they are starting to push for pay rises and using these figures to help them.

A fashion assistant getting Dhs20,500 per month at The National? That’s a lot of money to pick up and return clothes from malls, but Editors and Dep Eds are now starting to use these figures (with spreadsheet printouts) to say: ‘Am I really worth five grand less to you than a fashion assistant is worth to The National?’

People will start hiring again and with exact details of what The National are paying out in the open, it’s a good thing for journalists here to use as a point of negotiation. Or to apply for some of those jobs at The National that had VACANT next to them.

Anyone care to share other rough salary figures? Freelance rates? Who’s good and who is slow at paying freelancers? Why not let’s use this to help us all?

Or you can just carry on bitching at each other while your bosses get rich living on ‘Frond D of the Palm’.

Anonymous said...

Read this:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2009/03/uae-manly-women.html

Anonymous said...
This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.
Anonymous said...

Er, why was the last comment deleted?

anon_mediator said...

it was a little too close to the bone re gay rights

Anonymous said...

I see. So making threats against people is okay on this blog, but acknowledging that Abu Dhabi's smuggest newspaper doesn't write about sexual minorities is not?

Do you work at ITP?

anon_hack said...

I see. So making threats against people is okay on this blog, but acknowledging that Abu Dhabi's smuggest newspaper doesn't write about sexual minorities is not?

We have a no outing/no aspersions policy here to protect the safety of gay people working in UAE media.

The comment appeared to imply that five people working at a specific UAE newspaper were gay. If that's not what was meant, our apologies and by all means rephrase and repost it.

Jennifer Marto said...

@22:42, I'd have thought having worked at ITP you'd know their policies on staff who ask for wage increases! You basically get kicked out making way for the next poor bastard! And if he or she complains then they get the boot and are replaced again, and again... this perpetual cycle is what is keeping ITP alive and they know it.

Anonymous said...

What proof is there that the names mentioned are actually gay ? Props to anon_hacker for removing the list otherwise reputations and lives would have been endangered and slander and defamation lawsuits would have surely been filed.

Anonymous said...

The post didn't imply that anyone was gay. It was a joke about The National not having time to cover the UAE's new anti-lesbianism task force (see above), despite having a healthy number of staff.

Anonymous said...

Read this:

http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_2485442,00.html

Anonymous said...

I am against the task force. Personally I love Lesbians.

Anonymous said...

I heard a rumour that this site is to be blocked by the UAE authorities.

See yah - wouldn't wanna be yah!

Anonymous said...

Even the fat ugly ones?

Anonymous said...

@ 0821 - I guess you must be one of those usual voices who counters any criticism of Dubai with "if you don't like it leave" or, more pathetically "you're just jealous."

Obviously you don't like any freedom of expression so what the fuck are you doing on the internet? Why don't you just fuck off if you don't like it here?

You cunt.

Anonymous said...

15:27 - this is 08:27

Is that the best you can do? If freedom of expression allows numpties like you to say what you want, who the hell wants or needs it?

Perhaps a free flow of ideas would be better shared between those who have earned the right to express those ideas? You certainly haven't, given your more-than-crimson rant above; and by the way it is illogical, incoherent and insensitive fools like you that end up PREVENTING others from having their say.

Like any site that is solely powered by vitriole, this site will soon sink. Here's to you joining it...

Anonymous said...

0827 - No it is not the best I can do. I reserve that for people who pay me.

I just love coming on here and winding up cunts like you.

It's pretty obvious why the only place you're able to work is in Dubai.

Stay there. There's plenty of room for cunts in the desert.

Anonymous said...

This site is getting very boring indeed. Far too much bitterness...

Anonymous said...

On a very different topic (not sure it deserves a thread of its own) I used to freelance for a lot of the UK national papers from Dubai but don't anymore because I run a different business now. But I still get called at least once a week asking me to do stuff for them. i know a fair few guys (and girls) who freelance so I pass on numbers, but the papers call me back saying they won't do it because they only want to write 'safe fluffy features' (implied, not stated) - are there any journalists out there who aren't afraid to knock on doors and ask questions who can do this sort of work? Let me know so I can pass on your details instead.

Anonymous said...

What, are you trying to get us arrested?

Anonymous said...

sorry - anyone interested can forward their details to dxbfreelance34@gmail.com rather than posting them on here - of course I don't want to get you arrested - typically involves tracking down Brits in Dubai that the papers want to talk to for whatever reason...

Anonymous said...

Er, OK, if you say so, Officer Abdullah Bin Jailahack.

Anonymous said...

does it not annoy anyone else that a certain regular poster always ends up calling people a c$%t? it not only demeans the point he is trying to make, but it is also tedious for its repetition. could the mediator not delete that word? its overuse it devaluing this interesting website, and could hasten its blocking by authorities.

Anonymous said...

yeah, i agree on the language. there is no way he would dare communicate like that anywhere else. it's a shame, cos he has been known to make the odd decent point. let's himself down, poor pet.

Anonymous said...

Actually if it is who I think it is he communicates like that all the time and in every context...

Anonymous said...

Ok ok - I will tone the use of the "c" word.

And no, you don't know me.

Anonymous said...

good no more talk of C***** C*****
then ! hooray

Anonymous said...

Just for FYI
I heard that Khaleej Times is hiring...dont really know the vacancies or the pay scale but it does not hurt to drop a mail, does it?

Anonymous said...

Oh fantastic. I was tired of the forever-16 year old who kept using the c*** word to drive home a point whenever he was at loss for words.
will be a relief to hear what he actually has to say otherwise.
I suspect little.

Anonymous said...

0747 actually I used the c-word to embellish rather than drive home my point.

Surely someone of your exceptional intellect could've worked that one out?

However, if you're the same person who gleefully applauded the possible censoring of this blog or who drones on endlessly with the same old 'your jealous' or 'leave if you don't like it' argument, once again I'd like to suggest if you don't like the ragged cut and thrust of DMO to go forth and multiply, you horrible little misshapen gormless cretin.

Anonymous said...

Completely off topic, but is there a sense of irony in this press release relating to quality and media posted on AME Info?

http://www.ameinfo.com/188932.html

The caption is cracking:
"From left to right: Abed Alqader Obaid, DMI Bored Member, Faisal Abdullah, DMI Board Member, Osama Al Rahma, DQG Vice Chairman, Neimat El Jacques, DMI Quality & Follow up Manager."

How can you have a Bored Member when you have quality PR copy like this to amuse you:

"The agreement came as no surprise to Dubai which is considered as an important regional media hub which gives a high degree of freedom to the media community."

Glad to hear Dubai saw this one coming...

Anonymous said...

Hi 18
15.35.
He can give but he cant take!!!!
your post just reinforces what i thought - not even 16.
5 years maybe. The kid who learnt the new bad word. oooooooh

Anonymous said...

Then would like to point out that an extremely reputable newswire got their basic total to 100 wrong for equity stakes two weeks ago.
And the editor missed it too.
I have evidence.
It was corrected only two hours later.
the prescon that was held on a Sat - hint hint.

A No Knee Mouse said...

why is it that almost every DMO thread rapidly degenerates into some absurd and puerile slanging match between protagonists lurking behind the anonymous tag?

anyway... interesting to note that Construction Week has informed us today that "Currently, Dubai’s abras carry about 20 million passengers a day."
just how many abras are there?


assuming that each abra carries 30 people across the creek and each journey takes 5 minutes that's 55,556 abras in Dubai?

yes it's Thursday, it's nearly lunch and before anyone anonymous says, i'm happy to point out that i'm a C^%$, and also a c^&&^!

A No Knee Mouse said...

err crap maths there, forgot to include that the abras may run for more than one hour so assuming they are going hell for leather 24/7

that'd be 2,315 abras! still that's quite a lot of abras and some very tired abra men...

oh well by the rules of DMO, making a mistake would also means that i'm a f%^&%%$ w^^%%^% too. i hold my hand up high

Anonymous said...

@ anon 0921 - actually my mental age is about 14.

And I know and use all the 'bad words'...

xx

puck said...

why in the hell are they exempt from tax? somebody?

Anonymous said...

Gavin Dickinson has to take responsibility for the leak of salaries, he is the operations head.. although he couldn't operate a tap without flooding the sink..

Anonymous said...

err, because there is no income tax for anyone in the UAE?

But Abu Dhabi's insane rental market easily matches and exceeds any western tax system. There's a reason why the Nationals staff are rightly angry about getting screwed out of promised accomodation. Even with their respectable salaries all the reporters will struggle to find anything they can afford.

Anonymous said...

They were hacked by an grumpy ex staff member based in the USA now.

I think we owe the chap a cold beer.

Truth is that Dickinson & anybody else there in a leadership position should be applauded for paying properly. You see those that can, do, & get paid for it, those that cannot spend their days at ITP getting Dhs12 000pm and far to much time on this blog. Get it?

The leak just provided the 1st bit of transparency in the mkt, I am delighted & reality is that I am goingto do all I can to get a job there. The paper is fantastic & it beatss the crap out of me sitting here working for the bearded one writing about stuff I don't care about. Look at you all. Pathetic.

Anonymous said...

can anyone from the national confirm if these salaries include a housing allowance or not? that makes a huge difference.

Anonymous said...

housing allowance is included for the top editors, deputies and up.

Anonymous said...

@anon 00:42. The figures include the housing allowance.

June Hanley said...
This comment has been removed by the author.
Anonymous said...

Gavin has done nothing but succeed since his arrival. people don't like him beceause his energy and ability leave lazy wankers like 16:19 looking like the lazy wankers they are.
of course it's not his fault someone hacked their system you penis.

indiancurry said...

Can someone get the latest news in Dubai? The National salary news leak post looks to break record dormancy period.

Maya said...

I think the National put the standards higher for the English newspapers in the UAE who are pretty lousy. As a reader, I am glad Abu Dhabi can afford to pay these salaries: at least the outcome is of high quality, despite all what you are saying. I do enjoy reading the newspaper and it has excellent features and original content. well done Newland, well done ADMC

Anonymous said...

What happened to DubaiEye? One moment Swan and Wes are talking about Flickr and the newsstory here: http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle.asp?xfile=data/theuae/2009/March/theuae_March543.xml&section=theuae&col= , the next, they're saying "out of respect, we have to go to classical music, our news team will update you soon" ; did they cross some invisible line?

Anonymous said...

Getting word that someone in the royal family has died. Stations ordered to go to soft music or the Qur'an. Anyone know the scoop?

Anonymous said...

No invisible lines. All radio stations are playing solemn music or Quranic verses now. See reason here:
http://www.gulfnews.com/nation/Government/10297529.html

Anonymous said...

Maya, if you think National carries original pieces then either you have never read a quality newspaper or are a troll.

Anonymous said...

very interesting supplement in today's Guardian in the UK.

please say it's worth a new thread

http://www.guardian.co.uk/middleeastmedia

Anonymous said...

Not interesting at all - it's got no teeth and, oh look, sponsored by Abu Dhabi's new venture twofour54.

Certainly not worth a new post (unless you want to take the heat off The National salary discussions)

Anonymous said...

Even this guy managed to get a job at The National.
Maybe he's replaced the dude who leaked the salaries.

http://www.mediastyle.ca/2009/02/national-post-reporter-has-total-twitter-melt-down/

Anonymous said...

How do I get a job with The National?

Anonymous said...

The National also carries press releases with bylines.
How do i know?
I get them.
So does Khaleej Times in the Business section.
as lead story. and no one knows.
with not even one extra quote in a tel interview.

Anonymous said...

# Emirates journalism turns a new page - guardian.co.uk - Monday, March 23, 2009 - link in DMO

Pls read second last para.

what the heck is an ex-patriot?

hahahahahaha - The Guardian.

indiancurry said...

Hello, is the webmaster on leave or can someone get a new topic?

Anonymous said...

@ Anon 08:02


What the heck is an ex-patriot?

A traitor of their won country pretty much

Anonymous said...

oh dear, i never realised the guardian did advertorial like that. the liberal elite bashing dubai is one thing. supping from the capital's cup in return for slaven pro-abu dhabi guff is far more worrying. did it go out as a printed supplement with media guardian on monday? it doesnt seem to be overly promoted on the website. strange that.

Anonymous said...

Maybe this can be posted in a new 'jobs available' thread but a consumer magazine is looking for staff writer. Pay is 10k so would suit someone who a) can live off that and b) is at the start of their career.
Skills needed are:
- ability to write in clear, concise English
- ambitious, motivated, passionate about magazines
- has original ideas
- hard worker

if anyone is interested or knows someone who is, contact: dubaimediajob1@gmail.com

Anonymous said...

10K???

Are you not following the point. You have to start paying MORE. Who with 1/2 brain can live on 10K.

If you all keep accepting work paying nothing - we get no change. You follow that yes / no.

DONT EVER PUT UP A CRAP CHEAP JOB AD HERE AGAIN.

ASS.

Anonymous said...

Well, they are being pais...which in the UAE would appear to be a luxury again http://emirates-neon-group.angelfire.com/index.html

Anonymous said...

Anon @ 12.36
I take it you are not interested then?:) I guess it would take some brainpower to live on 10k a month, what with budgetary contraints etc.

Anonymous said...

Dear friends,
Anyone know what's cooking at Khaleej Times? Sources tell me people have been laid off the new wknd team already. Also, KT is launching a new magazine - what's that all about?
Cheers,
Anon

Anonymous said...

On another note, the reporter from The National Post who had a very public meltdown on Twitter http://www.mediastyle.ca/2009/02/national-post-reporter-has-total-twitter-melt-down/ has the joined The National in Abu Dhabi!!

Anonymous said...

Long time between threads DMO...have you all been sacked from your respective day jobs?

Anonymous said...

It's hugs all round at 7Days...

Good News Pledge

Another day, another company lays off staff, another story of human suffering hits the headlines and there's another dire warning that we are killing our planet.

Doom and gloom is in the air as the world goes through troubling times and the economic downturn affects us all. It can seem at times that there is nothing positive going on in the world.

But at 7DAYS we believe it is important to remember that despite these global difficulties, there are still many good things happening around us and you need to know about them.

That is why today we make our Good News pledge.

We promise that every day we will tell you about something good that is going on in the UAE. It may be an act of kindness, generosity or even heroism. It may be something that will make our lives here better or simply someone's tale of good fortune.

And we hope that our readers will be inspired to tell us about their 'Good News' by using the campaign email goodnews@7days.ae or posting online.

Of course, 7DAYS will continue to bring you all its usual coverage. We will, as our readers have come to expect, report tenaciously on the key issues and events in the UAE. We will continue to ask the difficult questions that need to be asked and we will, as always, give voice to those who struggle to be heard. After all, you would expect nothing less from your 'Good News Paper'.

Claire Sharrock, Editor
7DAYS

Anonymous said...

that missive from 7days makes them look like religious mental cases

Anonymous said...

RE: 30 March, 2009 10:39. the reporter who had a public meltdown on twitter and joined the national.

glad to see that the UAE gets the best of the best... does his hiring manager know about his twitter tirades? maybe somebody should tell him? or has he committed more serious crimes... like he's a serial killer?

Anonymous said...

7 Days is a mess. The editor is a joke, as illustrated by that crap

Anonymous said...

Remarkable....the following link fronm 25 March is blocked by Du. What did it say? I assume it was nota positive story and did not fit in with Dubai Medialand's 'Good News Only' agenda?

Anonymous said...

Today's 7Days front page leader didn't cheer me up at all....

http://www.7days.ae/storydetails.php?id=75956&title=Day%20trip%20tragedy

They need more jokes and more photos of kittens or mabye a nice recipe for apple crumble?

Anonymous said...

If the good news pledge is a genuine attempt to cheer people up while still providing proper news coverage then it's not a bad marketing tool. If however it's to cover up for the fact that you no longer have the balls (or anyone with enough ability) to actually cover the things people are talking about, which used to be 7days' strength, then it's a sham.

Anonymous said...

who gives one if some journalist had a tiff with a pr person on twitter? it's hardly important...

cherry said...

i believe that the national staff are about to have to start paying for their accomodation very shortly. they were under the impression i believe that their hotel bills would be paid indefinately...makes a bit of an indent into those nice salaries...
MEED just made redundant 20 staff and have 'sacked' about another 10 in the previous month. there you go...

Anonymous said...

@18:38

Lots of people give one. That's why the Post had to issue an apology.

Reporters should know better than losing their temper and insulting people publicly, especially when it's related to his work.

If this spreads across the UAE, not one company or PR person would want to interact with him.

What a loser! As if we need more journos with attitude in the UAE!

Anonymous said...

8.12, we dont need any more journalists in the UAE, that's why so many are being laid off.

Anonymous said...

Can we please have a new thread DMO?

Anything really will do.

7D's good news
TO Restaurant Awards (that seem totally random and not representative of any reviewers on TO's website)
Petch's latest supercar
Fairservice's latest trip to the UK

Anything will do

Anonymous said...

Jeez if every reporter who insulted someone lost their job we'd end up with the most banal anodyne media in the world...

Oh right - now I see what you're getting at.

Anonymous said...

How about a new thread re this one:

The organisers of the third Dubai Lynx Advertising Awards have announced that they are withdrawing the Agency of the Year award from Fortune Promoseven (FP7) Doha following a probe into some of its entries.

http://www.arabianbusiness.com/551351-agency-stripped-of-awards-following-ad-furore

Anonymous said...

all the power,all the money, the life all up in smoke for one leak!!! there are too many world secerts we need to share all, know all. to make all the killing worth something. R.

Anonymous said...

all these editors-media people,earn so much and yet there's a deficit in the uk also with excessive earners, then the government decides to attack poor,unemployed and the elderley on state benefits in order to reduce this richmans spending spree deficit,i think these governments are a disgrace to humanity[with thier lies and theivery]i paid for the right to claim benefits incase i was made unemployed,yet the kakistocracy can cut these benefits,but they can still have their expences to work??,i don't get anything for having to get a bus to sign on to receive my benefit why?.